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I've heard iiipopes' mod in person and it drastically increases the tone palette of his guitar. I gotta give it a big "+1".
Deerstalker
Post subject: Re: 325v59 - Specs
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:33 am
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:03 am Posts: 6 Location: California
These mods are absolutely fantastic, and easy to apply and definitely worthwhile. Just make sure to order the RIC specific pots which will fit perfectly without modification.
Using the push/pulls to control the vintage tone and/or 2 or 3 pickups makes this already superb guitar extremely versatile. From that old style rock n' roll that the Beatles made famous to some smooth blues this guitar can now do it all with a flick of a hidden switch(es).
IIIpopes thank you for sharing your knowledge and so much time!!! And another plug goes to Eric of Nickelson music in Folsom CA for working hard to make this guitar play like a dream. I think JWL himself would've grabbed this one!
THANK YOU!
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OK, I need to clarify some things after a private discourse with another gentleman about what these mods do: my mods are NOT a simple mid pickup cut/add. Moreover, they do not give the mid its own volume control per se, but uses the "bass" volume and tone controls selectively, but still with stock functionality.
My wiring mods, which work best with a three pickup instrument with a 5th knob, but can be adapted otherwise, do two things simultaneously:
1) With the push pull down: a) the .0047 cap is inline to the bridge pickup, and b) only the neck pickup is sent to the up position of the selector switch.
This is what most people prefer for "vintage 60's" maximum jangle.
2) With the push pull up: a) the .0047 cap is NOT in the bridge circuit, and b) only the middle pickup is sent to the up position of the selector switch.
This gives a completely different palette of tone colors to the instrument.
I had posted this in various threads beforehand, but these threads are probably now buried in the back pages of the forum, so it's time to refresh what my mods actually do.
Thank you for your time, and thanks to Mr. JH & all at RIC for the bandwidth to restate what these mods do.
Use only RIC approved parts. These are my personal mods not connected with RIC in any way except they have been gracious to extend their permission to post about them here on the forum. Modifying a guitar can void the warranty and may not work for you as described, depending on the quality of the labor. Your milage will vary. You do these mods at your own risk.
That said, others have really enjoyed them as much as I do. Rock on!
kylek350
Post subject: Re: 325v59 - Specs
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:54 am
Joined: Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:09 am Posts: 110 Location: Chicago, IL
After a year of searching, I finally found my Jetglo V59. Such a great little guitar! Can anyone send me the info on the wiring mods?
Also, I'm having some tuning stability issues. I'm running 12 gauge flatwounds and tuning goes out the window if attempt to use the Bigsby. There's an awful lot of downward pressure on the string saddles. Anybody have any suggestions? I assume the bridge would be fine given that it's used with Ac'cents. Would the Bigsby bridge improve things?
Thanks, Kyle
iiipopes
Post subject: Re: 325v59 - Specs
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:30 pm
Joined: Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:07 am Posts: 3870
Now you know why I don't like any whammy. Every whammy I know of inherently has some degree of instability. A Bigsby is made for subtle vibrato, not dive-bombing. In order to get the best out of one, the Sorkin Bow Tie bridge that will rock back and forth with the Bigsby is recommended. You can get it from Elderly Music among other places.
OK, with the '59 being a 4-knob guitar instead of a 5-knob guitar, I'll have to draw one for you to send.
Now, I can do this a couple of different ways. I can make it so I move everything that is on the 5th knob to one of the other knobs, or I can separate the functions like I did for another gentleman.
Just let me know what you want, give me a week to make time to draw it, and I'll send it to you.
Deerstalker
Post subject: Re: 325v59 - Specs
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:20 am
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:03 am Posts: 6 Location: California
I haven't had any issues with my whammy, but my v59 as received had a sorkin bridge and 'butterbean' tuners already installed. Of course if you're Neil Young and rip the strings out when using it, your mileage will vary..
If it helps, I'd have a luthier install the sorkin to set the intonation properly and also have him/her double tape the bottom so it doesn't move on you.
kylek350
Post subject: Re: 325v59 - Specs
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:26 pm
Joined: Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:09 am Posts: 110 Location: Chicago, IL
iiipopes, as far as wiring modifications, I was thinking it would be neat to be able to mix the middle pickup with the bridge while retaining the stock look of four knobs. Additionally, I was surprised by how dark the guitar sounds, especially the neck pickup. I'm running through a '66 Deluxe and ended up putting the Bass EQ on the amp down to zero! Are there options for caps that could be switched in and out to brighten things?
I'm not sure if I want to go so far as unwinding the pickups to vintage spec. Doing so would brighten things up, no?
As far as the Bigsby Bow Tie goes, I believe I'd be good to go given that it and the V59 finger board are a 10" radius. Any tricks to the installation or is it really just as simple as removing the stock bridge base plate and setting the Bot Tie in place (followed by intonating)? When people say the bridge "moves", is it that it's sliding along the face of the body?
Thanks!
maxwell
Post subject: Re: 325v59 - Specs
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:21 pm
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:16 am Posts: 235
iiipopes
Re: your post of May 02, 2009
With your outline of mods--particularly noting that you could incorporate these in a 4-knob set-up (e.g., the 325V59) for someone not willing to go to 5 knobs--do your specifications reflect what is commonly known as the "Lennon Mods?" I've looked many times for the specifications of the Mod, and I could not find anything... I mean, Nothing that would enable someone to mod their 325 in that manner. But right here, over a decade ago, it seems you have posted something concrete.
What can you tell me about the Lennon Mods, specifically?
iiipopes
Post subject: Re: 325v59 - Specs
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:54 pm
Joined: Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:07 am Posts: 3870
maxwell wrote:
iiipopes
Re: your post of May 02, 2009
With your outline of mods--particularly noting that you could incorporate these in a 4-knob set-up (e.g., the 325V59) for someone not willing to go to 5 knobs--do your specifications reflect what is commonly known as the "Lennon Mods?" I've looked many times for the specifications of the Mod, and I could not find anything... I mean, Nothing that would enable someone to mod their 325 in that manner. But right here, over a decade ago, it seems you have posted something concrete.
What can you tell me about the Lennon Mods, specifically?
My mods are my mods. I am not trying to emulate anybody else's wiring. Thanks again to Mr. JH and crew for the long thread on the wiring diagrams on this forum. Use only Rickenbacker approved parts where you can.
maxwell
Post subject: Re: 325v59 - Specs
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:51 pm
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:16 am Posts: 235
iiipopes wrote:
maxwell wrote:
iiipopes
Re: your post of May 02, 2009
With your outline of mods--particularly noting that you could incorporate these in a 4-knob set-up (e.g., the 325V59) for someone not willing to go to 5 knobs--do your specifications reflect what is commonly known as the "Lennon Mods?" I've looked many times for the specifications of the Mod, and I could not find anything... I mean, Nothing that would enable someone to mod their 325 in that manner. But right here, over a decade ago, it seems you have posted something concrete.
What can you tell me about the Lennon Mods, specifically?
My mods are my mods. I am not trying to emulate anybody else's wiring. Thanks again to Mr. JH and crew for the long thread on the wiring diagrams on this forum. Use only Rickenbacker approved parts where you can.
Well, I obviously am trying to emulate someone else’s wiring. The Mod(s) seem to be as elusive as the recently-found hidden treasure in the Rockies. Maybe I’ll get lucky, too.
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