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'The Complete Scores'
Have any of you Rick & Hof players have this book?
I know most of the Beatles catalog, but I'm gonna have my kids get this book for me for Xmas.
Your thoughts? Pros & cons?
Or should I just get the dam* book anyway.
btw, think I'm gonna have Jingle_Jangle restore my '71 forty-oh-one.
Cheers to all!
Teer
WhenTheRainComes
Post subject: Re: The Beatles...
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:46 am
Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:43 am Posts: 100 Location: The Deep South, USA
By "scores", I take it you mean full music notation and tablature? The Beatles were the reason I picked up a guitar, and in 1965 I was too impatient to learn to read music, and consequently, learned most of my favorite Beatles tunes years later after doing time in a lotta bar bands, and getting my chops....I wish I had learned to read the music..., tho sitting down with a guitar, a paper and pen and a record player is an art unto itself, but it would have been nice to have a headstart---
By all means, get the book....it's practically a Holy work
It's not terrible, but it's also not completely accurate.
Schmidt
Post subject: Re: The Beatles...
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:17 pm
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:54 am Posts: 405 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Quote:
By "scores", I take it you mean full music notation and tablature? The Beatles were the reason I picked up a guitar, and in 1965 I was too impatient to learn to read music, and consequently, learned most of my favorite Beatles tunes years later after doing time in a lotta bar bands, and getting my chops....I wish I had learned to read the music..., tho sitting down with a guitar, a paper and pen and a record player is an art unto itself, but it would have been nice to have a headstart---
By all means, get the book....it's practically a Holy work
Hee... that's also my story :o) (except it was 1964).
Zurdo
Post subject: Re: The Beatles...
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:09 pm
Joined: Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:15 am Posts: 685 Location: Florida
just get the dam* book anyway :-))
Orangeman
Post subject: Re: The Beatles...
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:40 am
Joined: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:28 am Posts: 48 Location: Bay Area, CA
It's probably the best Beatles book you can find. It's well worth it.
wozza
Post subject: Re: The Beatles...
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:45 pm
Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:18 pm Posts: 149 Location: Australia
I have it and while it is not 100% accurate it is pretty damn close, well worth it.
mrsparkle
Post subject: Re: The Beatles...
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:48 pm
Joined: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:38 pm Posts: 9 Location: Southeast PA
I have a Beatles cover band, and I've had the book since inception about 12 years ago. It's definitely not 100% accurate, and I'm pretty picky - for example, it doesn't "hear" the third, monotone harmony part that just makes the wonderful 3-part vocals on "I'll Be Back", I defy anyone to try and play "Lady Madonna" the way the piano is scored, and the book makes the classic mistake (which even Macca himself does to this day) of playing the two guitar lines in "Birthday" in unison an octave apart. Sorry, but the 6th note in the riff is in harmony (higher part on the normal F#, lower part up to an A).
That said, get the book!! It certainly has a lot of correct answers and/or good starting points to fill in the blanks. There's no question that it's the best job of transcribing the Beatles catalog EVER.
Joined: Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:15 am Posts: 685 Location: Florida
but boys, do you need a "static" book to play Beatles songs? (or anybody else's songs?)
I learned them the hard way, by ear, starting 46 years ago, (with the VJ Beatles record), sitting in front of my sister's "Ken & Barbie" pink record player because it was the only record player in those days. Ok, so we weren't rich, so don't laugh. My parents spent the money in my sisters' educations. But one of my sisters, Eileen the oldest, came home every Christmas with Beach Boys and Motown records, and in 1963 showed up with The Beatles VJ record, FOR ME! (yes I still have it).
I know all the Beatles' songs and I arrange them in Midi format too, years of hard work to get them right.
And I play in a 1-man Beatles Band, with a Yamaha Sequencer, and a Roland VS recorder where I mix audio and midi. Gigantic sound system with a stereo amp where each instrument is routed to its own set of Vox speakers. Yes Vox PA Grenadier XII speakers and a Series 90 guitar amp. (and JBL cabinets too). No lip singing here. No air guitars. No posing.
I play the Hofner Bass, the Rickenbacker 12 string, and all the other 6 string parts in my Kent and Gibson. I sing all the leads, and I recorded the vocal harmonies in the Roland VS which is synched to the Yamaha Sequencer.
So stop posing with your Rickenbackers and start playing ♫ :-)) You don't learn dynamics or velocity from a book, only by playing hard. And don't forget the Singing, all The Beatles SANG their hearts out for heaven's sake!
but boys, do you need a "static" book to play Beatles songs? (or anybody else's songs?)
Zurdo
Need? Nope. But the inability to use the written form of music is analagous to functional illiteracy, IMHO. People used to be embarrased if it became known that they couldn't read or write. I have yet to fathom why some musicians, (and too often guitar owners), seem to brag about the inability to read, write and understand standard notation.
The Complete Scores Book of which we speak, (I have a copy), is a useful if imperfect tool. I dislike the fine print. If there is anything you want to work with on a music stand or in front of you on a piano, then you either blow it up on a photocopier or use your Superman Vision.
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