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 Post subject: original machine heads??
 Post Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:03 pm 
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I have a 1963 365 and the machine heads are open-backed brass tuners with a plastic 'mother of pearl' knob (for lack of the proper term). I've seen many different pictures of vintage Rics and most have closed-back chrome machine heads, but I've even seen pictures of Rics with the side-winding open reel type that you usually only see on acoustics. Can anyone tell me if the heads are factory issue?


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 Post subject: Re: original machine heads??
 Post Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:52 pm 
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Most Rickenbackers in this period that were on the higher-priced end of the catalog were fitted with nickel-plated Kluson machine heads that had a closed back with the words "Kluson Deluxe" in a single line down the middle of the cover. It could, however, be possible that the tuners on your guitar are original, there were on odd occasions other types used. It would be cool to see a pic of one on your guitar, if you could e-mail me a pic. Hope this helps.


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 Post subject: Re: original machine heads??
 Post Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:08 am 
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Is there any possibility that these might have had a cover at some point? Your description rather closely fits that of the Van Ghent keys sometime used in that era. The buttons are sorta rectangular pearloid affairs and the mechanism mounted on a brass plate is tearn drop shaped and should originally have had a similarly shaped chrome cover.


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 Post subject: Re: original machine heads??
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I'm betting that they are Van Ghents with the covers removed.


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 Post subject: Re: original machine heads??
 Post Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:49 am 
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Thanks,

There is an almost imperceptable indentation in the wood around the circumference of the tuner mechanism suggesting that perhaps a cover was pressed on over top at one time. If I can figure out how to post a picture, perhaps I can provide one for comment.

Trev


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 Post subject: Re: original machine heads??
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Look at the outline of the cover or even the base of the key as mounted on the guitar- if it's teardrop shaped, rather than rectangular, they're Van Ghent.


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 Post subject: Re: original machine heads??
 Post Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:59 am 
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Thanks John,

They are definitely teardrop shaped, so I guess they are Van Ghents. Does anyone know where I can get some covers?



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 Post subject: Re: original machine heads??
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Hmmm...It may be easier to find complete tuners than just the covers, I see some Van Ghent sets for sale from time to time, I'll keep an eye out.


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 Post subject: Re: original machine heads??
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Thanks!


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