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 Post subject: 12 string solid body sound?
 Post Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:45 am 
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What is the difference in sound between the more common semihollow body 12 string like the 360's and the 900 solid bodies?

For those who have tried both can you try to describe the difference?

I definitely prefer the looks of the semihollow bodies and want the vintage 60's sound.

Beatles, Byrds and REM.

I don't do any hard distortion or metal. Just clean to lightly distorted.

There is a 900 series solid body locally for $900 but I'm not shelling out $900 unless it is a semihollow body.


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 Post subject: Re: 12 string solid body sound?
 Post Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:10 am 
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Scooter, you pretty much answered your own question. If you're looking for the '60's sound, Byrds, Beatles stuff, then the 300 series is the way to go. I have both a 600 model and a few 300 series guitars. The solid bodies are very versatile in their sound but again, if you primarily want the traditional Rick sound then the 300 series guitars, 330, 360 etc are the way to go. Just my opinion.
Should add my 600 is a 660/12 and I have a 360/12. I prefer the 'jangle' of my 360.

I also think you meant '600' series, correct?


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 Post subject: Re: 12 string solid body sound?
 Post Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:51 am 
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ScooterB,

I, too felt that a 330 was the "way to go" for a Rickenbacker 12 string. I was somewhat disappointed. It lacked for sustain and didn't quite sound like I'd hoped: All those famous recordings by the Beatles, Byrds, Who, et al.
Until I chanced upon a used Rickenbacker 620-12 two years ago. This guitar had more sustain and treble than the 330-12 I'd traded earlier. I bought it straight away and haven't looked back! It's fantastic and has a serious "fun-factor"!
Oh, I enjoy my 360-6 string alot, but for for that "jingle-jangle mornin" sound, I'll keep my JG 620-12 played through my Fender Super 112! Try a 620-12 before you make up your mind.

Eggman


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 Post subject: Re: 12 string solid body sound?
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I think the 660/12 solid body sounds every bit like a jangly Ric 12 string should. IMO it is the best Ric 12 string to have if you play one alot live because they stay in tune very well.

Ted


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 Post subject: Re: 12 string solid body sound?
 Post Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:47 am 
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The solidbodies will have more sustain and bottom-end due to the increased mass, neck-thru and the fact that the pickups and bridges are attatched directly to the neck wood. Hollowbodies will have a lighter more springy sound and you'll be able to hear a little more of the wood's character (bright/punchy in the case of maple, midrangy/focused for alder and warm/full for walnut).


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 Post subject: Re: 12 string solid body sound?
 Post Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:39 pm 
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I agree about the 660/12. Loads of vintage style jangle. I still have the opinion whether it be solid body or hollow body, the toaster pickups have just as much to do with a 'vintage sound' as much as the body. Hollow or solid. My 660 wipes the floor of a 330/12 I once had and is comparable to a hollow bodied 325/12V63 which I also owned. Everybodies ears are different though!!


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 Post subject: Re: 12 string solid body sound?
 Post Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:06 pm 
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I love the sound of my 660/12 live and loud onstage. Bright, ringing, sustaining. But balanced, bass strings are warm at the same time.
Loudest guitar I own! I don't seem to be able to get the tone of the intro to So You Want To Be A Rock And Roll Star (that G to A, not the riff that is the melody line). That sounds "hollow-bodied" to me. But we do originals, and this guitar amazes me. I power chord on it as well, more interesting than with a mere 6 strings! Oh, and I do leads.


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 Post subject: Re: 12 string solid body sound?
 Post Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:20 pm 
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Thanks for the replies guys.

I would love to hear them side by side but they are in different stores on different sides of town.

This does make me more curious about the solid body...I just had not seen them before.


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 Post subject: Re: 12 string solid body sound?
 Post Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:42 pm 
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My 660 wipes the floor of a 330/12 I once had and is comparable to a hollow bodied 325/12V63 which I also owned.
We've not produced any sold body 325/12v63's. They didn't have sound holes which may have led to your confusion.


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 Post subject: Re: 12 string solid body sound?
 Post Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:47 pm 
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Maybe you misread John! I said hollow bodied 325/12V63. Maybe even semi hollow. It certainly wasn't solid!!


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