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 Post subject: 620 features
 Post Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:16 pm 
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I recently bought a 330 and I am hooked on Ric. At some point in the future, I think that I would like a 620. I am a little confused about some of the spec changes. I think I would like the smaller headstock, hi gain pickups with adjustable poles, and the older body style (where the wave is not continuous across the neck, and the upper horn is flatter). is there a range of years where all of these specs overlap? I have tried to sort through the forums and figure it out, but I haven't been able to yet. Thank you in advance!

-Keith


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 Post subject: Re: 620 features
 Post Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:39 pm 
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I also thought I should add..... I like the neck profile on my 330. it is from the 4th week of January 2008. I think I would like this same neck profile on the 620 so please try to help me factor that in also. Thanks!


-Keith


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 Post subject: Re: 620 features
 Post Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:16 pm 
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Keith - the 620 is my favorite Rickenbacker.

There were many changes to the 620 and 625 guitars over the years. Including adding the 660 with a wider neck - derived from the first December 1963 620 / 12 that belongs to Mike Campbell. In 1998 RIC added a 6 string version once the run of 1000 Tom Petty Limited Editions was done.

First examples of the 625 and 615 date from very early in 1962. (BA date code).

In 1974 Rickenbacker discontinued the Accent Vibrato - so 625 guitars disappeared from the line up. In 1984 the Accent Vibrato was reintroduced - but RIC changed the numbering system - with an Accent equipped instrument having the VB added to the basic model number. (The 325 was excluded from this change).

I have a Nov 67 FG 625, a June 77 JG 620, a January 91 JG 610 and an April 2002 BG 620VB. The necks are different on all of them with the thinnest being the one from 1967.

The changeover from the Kluson tuners comes in mid 1982. My first Rickenbacker a JG 620 from April 1982 (VD1084) was the last batch that used the older tuners. Headstock shapes all change into larger more paddle like shapes in 1984 after John Hall and his wife bought the company from his father. Black trim became standard on certain finishes like Midnight Blue, Red and White. Full length inlays returned to the necks around 2008.

Each guitar has subtle tiny little changes over the years. Hope this info helps you in your quest for the perfect 620!

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67 FG 625
74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 JG 4001
80 FG 620/12
81 BG 480
91 JG 610
02 BG 620

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78 TR7
83 TR25


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 Post subject: Re: 620 features
 Post Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:21 pm 
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Thank you so much! I think I would like the full inlays. when did the headstocks get small again? and what about the body shape change?

Thank you so much for the history!

-Keith


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 Post subject: Re: 620 features
 Post Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:22 pm 
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Also a great way to track the changes over the years is by looking at photos in the RRF register a voluntary fan run database of instruments.

620s are here - (my first 620 is the third one down)
http://www.rickresource.com/register/ga ... =0&month=0

and 625s are here.
http://www.rickresource.com/register/ga ... =0&month=0

You will learn much by studying the images.

All the best.

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A Rickenbacker Fan in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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67 FG 625
74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 JG 4001
80 FG 620/12
81 BG 480
91 JG 610
02 BG 620

Amps -
78 TR7
83 TR25


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 Post subject: Re: 620 features
 Post Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:00 am 
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Thank you! I will see what I can sort out. Of course, in the end, it all comes down to which cool 620 I stumble across! But it will be nice to be able narrow my search.
Thank you!


Keith


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 Post subject: Re: 620 features
 Post Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:05 pm 
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Modoc_333 wrote:
Thank you! I will see what I can sort out. Of course, in the end, it all comes down to which cool 620 I stumble across! But it will be nice to be able narrow my search.
Thank you!

Keith


If you get the headstock and wave/horn worked out, the current pickups are the easy part. They can be purchased from the Botique on this site.


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 Post subject: Re: 620 features
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620's are real sleepers in general. I have a '14 in Ruby. A 620 will do the jangle thing but most are very surprised at the amount of sustain that can be achieved through a cranked tube amp or with an OD pedal. People hear the name "Rickenbacker" and they made the wrong assumptions. A 620, with its compact but dense solid maple body and neck through construction can be a hard rock monster...the neck HiGain also has a killer blues tone.


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 Post subject: Re: 620 features
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:42 am 
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i thought about swapping pickups. I know the body will make it sound different compared to my 330, but I thought of different pickups as a possibility too. or if I got one with non adjustable poles, I could swap them for newer ones. I guess that I am most concerned about the other features that I can't change (the actual shape and size of the wood itself). My main electrics have been a Les Paul and a 50s style Tele. Since I have recently added the 330, I have added a 3rd sound that I haven't had. I would like for the 620 to fill a 4th role. I may even put toasters in it (or buy a 660 though I would like to play one and see if I like the neck). How much weaker are the toasters compared to the hi gains or a Fender Nocaster pickup set? I really am not looking to add a compressor to my board (I hear that suggested often) and I would be more interested in a Tom Petty tone than a Byrds or Beatles thing. It would be cool if it can rock a little harder too.


So, I guess I need to figure out the overlap for the small headstock but old style wave/horn. and then just find one and see how it sounds! I can fix pickups later if I like the guitar. Did the 660 go through similar body shape changes?


-Keith


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 Post subject: Re: 620 features
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Modoc_333 wrote:

How much weaker are the toasters compared to the hi gains or a Fender Nocaster pickup set? I really am not looking to add a compressor to my board (I hear that suggested often) and I would be more interested in a Tom Petty tone than a Byrds or Beatles thing. It would be cool if it can rock a little harder too.


Toasters will do the Petty/Campbell thing. They do an amazing clean chime and IMO work very well up into light-to-moderate distortion. They can get a little 'nasally' if you go to far. Hi gains do a nice clean, though not quite what the toasters do, but you can run the amp as hard as you want and they still sound great - as long as you can handle some hum. (It's just Rock and Roll, right? :) ). I guess I'd put Nocasters somewhere in between, range-wise, at least, but there ultimately just kinda different.

Here's a tread on horn/wave shape:
http://www.rickresource.com/forum/viewt ... 1&t=408669

Map those dates out, then find a thread on head stocks and see if they overlap, then see if you can find what you want....


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